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Average customer rating:

Very good
Amazing
Wonderful Joystick It's Perfect for me
What a Difference!!!
Another bad controller

Logitech Wingman Force 3D

Manufacturer: Logitech
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Product Features:

7 programmable buttons
8-way hat switch
Rapid-fire trigger
Stable, weighted base
USB plug-and-play connection

ASIN: B00004VUFH

Product Description

Feel the action in your games with this force feedback joystick / 7 programmable buttons / Twist handle for rudder control USB interface syncs the joystick to your computer with lightning-fast, pristine signals Package includes WingMan software and bundled games including Castrol Honda SuperBike World Champions, by Midas Interactive, on CD-ROM Requires - PC with Pentium class processor at 166MHz or faster 32MB RAM 20MB available hard disk space CD-ROM drive USB port Windows 98/2000/Me

Amazon.com Product Description

The force-feedback technology of Logitech's WingMan Force 3D joystick allows you to feel the action, weapon recoils, and explosions of your games. The space-saving design takes up minimal room on your desktop. Features include a twist handle function and lock, seven programmable buttons, eight-way hat switch, high-precision throttle, and rapid-fire trigger. It is compatible with USB-equipped PC systems.

Customer Reviews:

Very good.......2007-03-01

My brother has this module and it works very well. Its very nice to work with and easy to work with. And i'm 15 not 13.

Amazing .......2007-01-10

Does everything you need to play Flight Simulator. Good force feedback, and very sensitive, which is a good thing :) Easy to install. Easy to use. Easy to store, fast, and good price.

Wonderful Joystick It's Perfect for me.......2006-11-01

I disagree with whatever most said except about how long this stick will last. If you know how to use it then it's fine...It uses software to set the springback action (main feature I love)...The only issue I found is that from a cold boot with usb 2.0 you must open game controllers and then go to settings and make sure spring action is checked and just ok out because it forgets setting on slider. As I said there is a slider that can adjust spring action which is great...I had no problem with dead spot. I have been using it for 6 years and love it but it usually has problems after 3 to 6 months (erratic motion)...and so I have to keep buying more..I do not use feedback feature. I absolutely love the thumb throttle, positioning of buttons and handle twist. I play Descent 3 Unreal Tournament, and Quake 3. Not good for pacman. You must use a very simple stick for pacman.

What a Difference!!!.......2006-09-29

I've had several joysticks from various manufacturers over the past years...I'm 74 now...but this stick has been a joy to use and for the price can't be beat. I was utterly amazed with the difference force feedback makes and after practice am absolutely thrilled with this new aspect of flying combat missions. I have had this stick for over three months and have had no problems with the calibration or the feel or sensation in actual combat flight. For less than $11.00 in cost, this joystick in my opinion is a steal. I have several older and more pricely joysticks back in their boxes (I seldom throw anything away) and rarely will pull one of them out to try again. But I always return to the Wingman Force 3D for the actual combat feel. Other customers have complained about various aspects of calibration (centering, spring tension, etc.) but I have had no problems whatsoever with these. I do know that in flying actual combat missions the stick will react to hits from flak or other aircraft and will become hard to control...but this to me is what makes this stick so amazing. If the enemy hits my rudder or aileron it is wonderful to feel the affect and fight the stick to maintain control of the aircraft. If and when this joystick wears out I sincerely hope I can purchase another at the same price although I would honestly pay must more to get another...My only regret in reviewing this product is that I am only allowed to give it 5 stars. What an injustice! Final analyysis: I am a perfectionist and highly critical of purchased products by nature....hense the tag "Beleagured Bob" (see my other reviews). That tag doesn't apply to this product unless I'm in the process of being shot down by some hotshot enemy pilot. But that's realism and I thoroughly enjoy it!!!

Another bad controller.......2006-06-05

Same problem as everyone else...too much play in the center right out of the box. The motors are weak and the software does not help the joysticks HUGE dead spot.
After a month of play, it was not usable anymore. Pull the joystick back and it thinks it's going foward. Even the new software Logitech put out didn't help...how about making it in the USA instead of China with it's very high tolerances?

Average customer rating:

Force Feedback Is Not For Everyone
Middle of the road stick
How the mighty have fallen... off to the left.

Logitech WingMan Strike Force 3D (USB)

Manufacturer: Logitech
ProductGroup: CE
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Belkin TuneCast II FM Transmitter

Product Features:

Durable optical technology provides smooth precision and resists dirt, eliminating the need for cleaning
Large finger-operated trackball is easy to use, offers superior control and reduces hand and wrist movement
Sleek shape is flexible enough to use in either hand
Limited 3 year warranty

ASIN: B0000659BP

Product Description

If you're not playing with force feedback, you're missing out on an entire dimension of excitement and realism. Logitech's premium stick is a powerful tool for powerful competitors.More power, more realism. Feel powerful and ultra-realistic weapon recoils, missile launches, collisions, and more with this premium force feedback joystick.

Customer Reviews:

Force Feedback Is Not For Everyone.......2005-02-17

I like force feedback when I play games I feel it adds more realism and that is the whole point. It also makes games more challenging once they are played out. This Joystick seems to apply more force than the standard 3d force feedback wingman model, and it has the scroll on the base and other features you can see listed in the specifications.

On the other hand, I know people who do not like force feedback at all and hate the joystick. So I think it is important to clarify the difference between a dislike with force feedback in general or a problem with this joystick in particular. Because I like Force Feedback in games, for me this joystick does everything it should and feels comfortable enough to use without being a distraction.

In conclusion, If you have never tried FF, I would buy a cheaper one and see if you like your games with it, but for those who are replacing or upgrading from another FF joystick, I think the improvements in this model are worth checking out.

Middle of the road stick.......2002-11-22

I bought this stick with great expectations and was really disappointed. I'll try to be informative.
- Stick is too loose, even with power to the stick. Too much play before the stick actually registers movement.
- Tried increasing tension of stick with the utility and it doesn't help.
- The effects were solid, but once again making any accurate/fine movements with the stick is impossible.

Maybe this would be a good supplemental stick, I don't think it's fit for duty as your main gaming stick. I ended up with a Sidewinder Precision Pro 2. Now that's a good stick.

How the mighty have fallen... off to the left........2002-09-17

Sorry Logitech, I love your keyboard, but your joystick leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I picked up the stick to do a little flying in Battlefield 1942 (BF). Now, given that BF could use a little more spit and polish in the joystick support department, the WingMan Strike Force 3D didn't meet my expectations.

It installed quickly and easily, no problems there. When I finally got around to the calibration phase, the stick seemed a bit loose and would pull to the left. I thought I could compensate by trying to calibrate so it would read the pull as the center, right? Wrong. Once I fired up BF, I was constantly having to compensate by pulling the stick to the right, which would throw off my ability to turn right (imagine flying a two engine plane with one engine out).

Needless to say, it's going back to the store tomorrow morning. I'll opt for a non-force feedback system for now (alot of the BF players have been complaining about not getting their Force Feedback sticks to work). I've heard good things about Microsoft's Precision Pro (non-Force Feedback), and even Logitech's WingMan Extreme 3D (non-Force Feedback). Until I can sock away [$$$] for the Thrustmaster HOTAS Cougar, I'll keep trying to find a moderately priced stick that works well (I don't think that's too much to ask).

I suppose I should also note, that when I was out looking at sticks earlier in the day, I noticed that a few of the WingMan's rubber boots around the stick and the base were starting to crack.

Amazon.com Product Description

With Logitech's WingMan Formula Force GP Wheel with Pedals, you can experience what really happens on the racetrack. The force-feedback steering wheel lets you feel the road, bumps, walls, and crashes. The custom-designed wheel shape includes rubber handgrips for comfort and precise steering control. Two wheel-mounted gear shifters allow for quick gear changes while staying in control. Four programmable buttons provide easy control of car functions and view changes. The space-saving console design takes up minimal room on your desktop and holds the wheel tight and secure with a dual clamping. The WingMan Formula Force GP Wheel includes realistic gas and brake pedals mounted on a weighted base and a nonslip, textured floorboard to provide your feet with better traction and to prevent slippage. The WingMan Formula Force GP Wheel requires a USB connection and works on the PC platform.

Product Description

Feel all the bumps, collisions, and wipeouts with this force feedback wheel. Stay in control with rubber hand grips, wheel-mounted gear shifters, and realistic gas and brake pedals.Now you can feel what really happens on the racetrack - all the bumps, collisions, and wipeouts - without wiping out your budget. And the space-saving console design takes up minimal room on your desktop while holding the wheel securely with a dual clamping system.

Customer Reviews:

bad game controller.......2007-01-30

I sell this today because is better my thrustmaster wheel (nascar racing but the old without forcefeedback ) I can hit the stop with a low amount of acceeleration, for me the bad wheel I have in my computer.

ok, out dated.......2007-01-20

Logitech Is a company that seems to have killed off most if not all of its competitors in terms of wheels, since Microsoft decided to stop production of its sidewinder steering wheel line. But the fact is, this wheel, while very good is not their best. The main reason for this is its age. The Logitech WingMan Formula Force GP Wheel, try say that fast 5 times, Is ,in computer years, about as up to date as your gand fathers old 1975 AMC Pacer. So why is this such a big deal? Well, there were a few problems, in terms of quality and functionality, that would need to be corrected. These corrections do not appear on this wheel.

To start with, the wheel it self feels light and plastic. It is easy to grip and feels comfortable, but it also feels like it could break if moved to suddenly. The wheel does give good feed back and seems to react to every little effect right down to hitting little rocks in the rode.

The pedals are plastic and seem a little to easy to break! Jamming on the gas too hard a the wrong moment will cause it to crack. Holding it down with force can also cause this to happen. Another major issue that affects these pedals is the phone line jack type connector that connects and locks the wire in to the wheel it self. It is easy to break and does its job of holding the wire in place to well. I had the misfortune of having this wire fall on the gas pedal just before I slammed down the gas, this, needles to say, ripped wire out of the phone line jack connector rendering the pedals useless. And dont think you can just run down to your local electronic store and replace it, the connector is smaller then a standard phone connecter and dose not seem to be available anyware. I have had to replace several of these wheels because of the pedals failing in one way or another.

This wheel also lack something that was very highly noted in its early days, A shifter. The only way to shift gears is to use the small paddles on the backs of the left and right spokes. The paddles really dont give that good a sense of feed back.

For the price you pay, you get an ok wheel, but why would one by this wheel when the much improved MOMO wheel also from Logitech, which dose have a shifter, can be found for not much more.

Adequate (barely) and dramatically inferior to its predecessor.......2005-11-05

I used a Wingman Formula Force for about 4 years, and it was a superb wheel that excelled in every game I used it with. These included the Need for Speed series (particularly Porsche Unleahsed) and the Colin McRae Rally series. When the potentiometers in the pedals began to behave erratically causing sudden and unpredictable changes in the amount of throttle pedal that the wheel would indicate, I attempted to replace it.

Unfortunately, the Formula Force is no longer available, being replaced instead by the Formula Force GP. The Formula Force GP (which was shipped to me by mistake by a vendor claiming to sell the original Formula Force) is a much cheaper wheel, and it shows in every aspect of its performance.

For one, the wheel uses a gear driven system instead of a cable driven system, and this limits the responsiveness of the wheel when continuously varying biasing force is needed, for instance, when the force on the wheel is intended to communicate the slip angle of the front wheels.

In addition, the gear-driven system produces a lot of inertia in the wheel and that inertia interferes with the feedback coming through the wheel. It also causes the wheel to have a perceived resisting feedback, even when the wheel should not be resisting your motion.

The pedals are adequate and have a good, progressive response, but they lack any grip surface on the bottom, or sufficient space on the side to use your left foot to brace the base of the pedals in position (both features on the original Formula Force). If you are using them on a surface other than carpet, they will tend to slip away from you.

The wheel provides two "paddles" and four buttons, the same as the previous model Formula Force, but the "paddles" are actually small buttons on the back of the wheel that are much harder to reach when quick reflexes are desired, or if you are attempting to operate the paddles while the wheel is turned significantly. Also, two of the four buttons are positioned at an angle that is awkward for your thumbs to reach.

In short, this is a passable wheel and pedal set, and for the money, may not be a bad choice. However, compared to the original Formula Force wheel from Logitech which it replaces, this wheel is a serious disappointment. If you can find an original Formula Force, or a Formula Force Momo from Logitech, they are better constructed and better performing products.

Build Like Tank.......2005-10-05

I have been using this Logitech WingMan Formula Force GP for at least 2 years. It has been plugged to my computer since day one. Playing the same old F1 2002 game for hours everyday for the pass 2 years. No problem no nothing. This product simply works and it works great. I will be getting FIA GTA soon. If this wheel ever die, I will surely buy another one without a doubt.

Great Wheel/Pedal Set.......2005-08-19

This is the only set I have ever purchased and I bought another one 3 years after the first set. The first one was great and had zero problems. When I found the SportsCarGT game was included, I played it for 2 years before buying NFSPU which is even better realism and way more fun. Now I have my kids race each other through multiplayer on the home network and they love it almost as much as I do.

I highly recommend this Logitech product through amazon. The 2nd set I ordered had faulty shift paddle contacts and amazon was quick to replace without extra charges or too long a wait even though it was out of stock 2nd time around. Yeah its a bummer when you cant play with a new toy, but this is the world we live in. Now I'm going to buy another one so three can play at once.

The new one works great and does exactly what it claims. Although the new one didn't come with the game anymore and the cord design is still the same mess as mentioned by other reviewers. The axis choices and calibration controls are excellent for both sportscargt and NFSPU as well as the older NFS games I picked up on ebay for real cheap. The reviewer who had problems with pedal controls either didn't calibrate the set or didn't calibrate the game to work with the set or both. The settings are specific to the game and some setup is required in the game as well. Even if only to select the wingman as the device default. Some times the settings get messed up for one reason or another and need to be re-calibrated in the game itself. A pain yes, but not that big a deal to fix.
As far as the realism critics, the rumble and the plastic may not be like a real car, but being a porsche owner, I can tell you from real world driving experience in both snow and rain that these cars respond just like the real ones. This set lets you practice techniques without damage to your own car. Also a Great way to see how different porsche models handle if your thinking about getting an older porsche, especially with older even more rear heavy 911's. You may decide that you don't like steering with your gas pedal.
The performance for the price from Amazon is a no-brainer. Buy it and have fun.

Average customer rating:

Logitech WingMan Attack

Manufacturer: Logitech
ProductGroup: CE
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Product Features:

Rapid-fire trigger and 3 action buttons designed for quick access
Versatile and flexible grip handle for hand comfort and control
Single centering spring for smooth and accurate movement
High-precision throttle for accurate power settings
Stable base with large footprint, weight plate, and rubber grippers

ASIN: B000028OCE

Product Description

Logitech offers its WingMan Attack game controller. It is equipped with: 3 action buttons designed for quick access; rapid fire trigger; single centring spring for smooth and accurate movement; versatile grip handle for flexible hand comfort and control; stable base with large footprint, and rubber grippers; high-precision throttle for accurate power settings.

Logitech 963253-0403 WingMan Attack 2 Joystick

Average customer rating:

Calibration
Great design, but doesn't work!
delivers what you need for under $20
Compatibility
Pretty Good But With Many Error Messages

Logitech 963253-0403 WingMan Attack 2 Joystick

Manufacturer: Logitech
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Durable optical technology provides smooth precision and resists dirt, eliminating the need for cleaning
Large finger-operated trackball is easy to use, offers superior control and reduces hand and wrist movement
Sleek shape is flexible enough to use in either hand
Limited 3 year warranty

ASIN: B0000659BS

Product Description

A great stick for an entry-level budget. Get a comfortable grip handle, six programmable buttons, and a no-slip, high-precision throttle.Easy set up and precise control can be yours, even on a budget. The WingMan Attack 2 joystick provides performance features such as a rapid-fire trigger, handle and base buttons, a precision throttle, and a comfortable handle-all at a bargain price.

Customer Reviews:

Calibration.......2004-06-29

Ive had this stupid stupid THING for about a year.Every time i play IL-2 the calibration gets all messed up.Im so PISSED.

Great design, but doesn't work!.......2004-06-13

I bought this joy stick because I really liked its design and ergonomics. The installation was a snap and the profiler software it comes with is easily configurable. However, it became completely unplayable after a few minutes (I was playing Grand Theft Auto) because it's calibration messed up. Now, I know my way around computers, but there is nothing I could do to fix the calibration, aside from unplugging/re-plugging the damn joystick every few minutes (not acceptable). I tried the newest drivers/software, removing the profiler, doing manual re-calibration, but I never got it to work properly. If you search the net, you'll see that many people had this problem, but Logitech never formally responded to it (bad customer support from my point of view). I have Windows 2000 professional installed, so I don't know if this is OS specific problem (again based on my research it seems to happen on other platforms as well). My advice, stay away from this Joystick and get something better (I got a Saitek controller and it works great). Oh, and, of course, do your research before you buy.

delivers what you need for under $20.......2004-06-06

This is hardly a "deluxe" model, but it's a good stick for under $20. Compared to joysticks costing $30 or more, the WingMan feels like it has too many loose-fitting parts, and the buttons are made from lightweight, cheesy-looking plastic. But it works just fine. This is one of the few sticks I've seen that doesn't squeak or creak; a sort of rubber collar at the base creates an odd but quiet sound. Also this stick doesn't have horizontal and vertical "grooves" -- it feels the same in all directions. I like the firmness of the throttle control which lets you power up your engines smoothly. The base is heavy and stays firmly on the desk. I use it with a Dell Inspiron 4000 running Win2000. Setup was painless -- I just plugged in and calibrated. Oddly, the Windows control panel calls the throttle control a "Z-axis" instead of a "slider." This might cause a problem if your game doesn't allow you to reassign this control.

Compatibility.......2004-01-06

This product is a great controller, and has been compatible so far...

However, it does not seem to be compatible with Need For Speed Underground, and I have not yet got a resolution from either Logitech or EA Games.

Pretty Good But With Many Error Messages.......2003-12-03

I have had this joystick for a few months now and I have not found a game that it is not compatible with. But sometimes I get error messages from windows like "Device is malfunctioning, try unplugging it and replugging it in again" that doesn't work and I have to restart my pc. Otherwise it is a pretty good joystick overall.

P.S. I am running Windows XP Home With SP2

Logitech WingMan Extreme Digital 3D Joystick w/Throttle

Average customer rating:

Bad, just like my other THREE Logitech joysticks.
Agree with Lars
Logitech's off center joystick...
HOW TO FIX YOUR LOGITECH STICK
Second One to break....

Logitech WingMan Extreme Digital 3D Joystick w/Throttle

Manufacturer: Logitech
ProductGroup: CE
Binding: Electronics

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Product Features:

8-way hat switch
7 programmable buttons
Rotary throttle
Rudder (including motion lock)
USB or 15-pin game port connection

ASIN: B00001W01M

Product Description

Take control of your game with all the features you need to dominate flight sims, combat missions, and races. All of the controls are positioned to provide quick and easy access during fast-action games. The comfortable handle and stable base make this a solid choice for serious gamers.

Amazon.com Product Description

This twist handle joystick features a leading-edge design for enhanced performance. It provides versatile hand-grip positions, seven programmable buttons, an 8-way hat switch, high-precision throttle, and a unique twist handle lock feature. Users can select USB or game port connection. The stable base includes steel weight plates.

Customer Reviews:

Bad, just like my other THREE Logitech joysticks........2006-12-29

About a year ago, when I was thinking about buying the Extreme Digital 3D, I was a little hesitant about it. I have owned three Logitech joysticks prior to this one, and they have all stopped functioning properly in the same way at approximately the same time. I was worried that the same thing was going to happen to the Extreme Digital 3D. But with its good looks, affordability, and many buttons, I decided to just go ahead and get it. That was a big mistake.

The Extreme Digital 3D, like my other three Logitech joysticks, worked just fine for about a year. The controls were crisp and precise, the buttons responded instantly. Everything worked great. Then about a year later (two months before I wrote this review), calibration problems started showing up. In "Game Controllers", the crosshairs would bounce all over the place with the slightest nudge of the stick. It can sort of stay at the center if I'm not touching it. But in a game, when I have to keep my hand on the joystick at all times, the thing I'm controlling (car, plane) refuses to stay in the center, verging to the left mostly. I had to keep unplugging/replugging the joystick to refresh the calibration, but it loses it again after a few mintues. Oh, yeah. And one of the buttons (button 10) won't register anymore unless I press it really hard.

Look, stay away from this joystick. It WILL fail you in about a year. As for all these good reviews talking about how good this joystick is...ask yourself how long the reviewer has had this joystick. A few days? Please, only pay attention to the people who've had this joystick for a few months to a year. The calibration horror stories are true. They're there.

Agree with Lars.......2005-08-19

The fix posted by Lars actually worked. If you have an extra two hours to take the stick apart (he may have done it quicker), you can soak the pods in alcohol and get a fairly decent result. Mine works quite fine after following his advice. Hardest part, as usual, was getting it back together- very frustrating. But for the price, if you really like this controller, buy another one.

Logitech's off center joystick..........2005-02-17

This stick used to work in prime condition. But after having it for 1.5 years its starting to show its true colors. If you read other reviews about the "Logitech WingMan Extreme: Digital 3D" Model Number J-ZA10, you will find one thing in common. It works like a charm for the first 3 months to a year and then shows a common and re-occurring symptom/problem/error. The sticks Y axis and Z axis will get more and more heavier on the left side until the stick is unplayable. I see this all over other review, It has happened to me, my brother, and my brothers friend who all have the exact make and model (the only variation being a minute color difference). An additional problem that I have encountered is the speed control will un-calibrate easily. I suggest that you get this joystick only if you accept that after prolonged use you will need a new one. If you think Microsoft's game controller recalibration software will do you any good it will only make things worse. I give it a 7/10 for features 9/10 for ease of use but a 2/10 for its reliability. However this joystick still beats Microsoft's Sidewinder into the dust.

The CALIBRATION PROBLEM can bee seen in ALL of LOGITECH'S JOYSTICK Products (as of 02/16/2005). My suggestion is look at Saitek or other joystick manufactures (besides Microsoft).

HOW TO FIX YOUR LOGITECH STICK.......2004-11-04

We all love the feel of the Logitech Sticks.
However it is 99% guaranteed that they will start to drift or jump at the slightest twist or touch.
For some reason the potentiometers gets dirty real fast.
Make sure that your USE 91% rubbing alcohol, all other things will ruin your stick.
Be careful with the potentiometers they are very fragile.

To fix the twist.
Take the handle apart and drop the twist pot into 91% rubbing alcohol and turn it a few times and dip it again and turn it.
Put it all back together.
Four screws and a clip.

The Base.
Take the handle apart.
Remove the twist spring.
Pop the lid with the imitation Allen-screws with a flathead screwdriver.
Unscrew the screws on the bottom of the base.
Remove the throttle.
Remove the pots for the x and y axis and give them the rubbing alcohol treatment.

Second One to break...........2004-10-30

This is the second Logitech WingMan Extreme Digital 3D Joystick that I have owned. The first lasted over a year and then some of the wires inside just snapped (opened it up after failure of some buttons). Looks like they used very brittle thin wires in the construction. However, over a year with my 4yo using it wasn't too bad so I replaced it with another in June. It just failed after 4 months. While the feel of it was great, it's reliability is a serious drawback. No caibration issues here.

Average customer rating:

The best joystick bar none
Wish they hadn't discontinued these!
Best joystick ever! Manufacturers take note!
Wow
A very nice stick only missing rudder control

Logitech WingMan Force

Manufacturer: Logitech
ProductGroup: CE
Binding: Electronics

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Product Features:

I-Force feedback cable-drive system
8-way hat switch
9 programmable buttons
USB and serial interfaces
Thumb-controlled throttle

ASIN: B00001W01O

Product Description

Logitech's Wingman Force will rock your world unlike any other force feedback joystick: gently! While other force feedback sticks produce violent, jerky feedback motion, the Wingman Force can give you smooth precision to simulate the nuances of a virtual world such as traveling over sandy terrain, or the hum of a vibrating engine. The Wingman Force accomplishes this subtlety using cable-drive technology used to train surgeons' hands, whereas most force feedback joysticks use a jerky belt-drive system. This isn't to say that the Wingman Force can't deliver a kick, either: you'll get the whole range of force feedback, from the quiet 200 vibrations/sec to a tooth-rattling explosion simulation. The Wingman Force offers no fewer than nine programmable buttons, and an eight-way hatswitch and throttle wheel. You'll rarely have to let go of the joystick to use a keyboard command. The Wingman Force can use either a standard serial connection or a USB connection, for compatibility with the system you have this year and the ones you'll have in the future as well. One final feature: as Logitech claims, this joystick is 'built to take abuse.' Logitech's fifteen-plus years of experience in designing top-notch input devices assures you that your Wingman Force will stay with you even when your virtual fighter gets blown out from under you for the one hundredth time.

Customer Reviews:

The best joystick bar none.......2007-02-28

I bought this joystick in the summer of 2000. As of now (Feb 2007) this beauty is still working like the day I took it out of the box. The force feedback is amazingly detailed. There are plenty of buttons that are programmable to even the most hard-core gamer's pleasure. This thing is as sturdy as sturdy can be. Part of me wishes that Logitech made an updated version of this, but the other part of me asks what's the point? This one is perfect. The steel cable force feedback mechanism is probably the best ever designed. The only thing that comes even close to the detail is the Logitech Driving Force Pro, and that's a wheel with forces only in two directions. If you are lucky enough to stumble across one of these, pick it up and enjoy. You won't be sorry.

Wish they hadn't discontinued these!.......2004-08-21

Like another person's review said, this is easily one of the best joysticks ever made. I bought this joystick right when it came out in 1998 and paid way too much money for it at Frys. Back then there weren't many decent force feedback games, so it ended up in the garage for a few years. I recently dug it up and dusted it off to use with Flight Simulator 2004. Once I plugged it in and started using it, I couldn't stop smiling! It's such a disappointment that Logitech stopped making these! This was one of those products that was true quality, not a set of engineering trade offs to create bigger sales margins like today's cheap line of joysticks. The cable-system this joystick uses can create force feedback effects that are almost impossible to create with gear driven force feedback joysticks. This is truely a joystick where one can say "They don't make them like they used to."

Best joystick ever! Manufacturers take note!.......2004-02-16

DON'T TRUST YOUR LIFE TO PLASTIC GEARS. This joystick uses steel cables for the control motors. There is a sensor in the handle that powers up the motors to center the stick. This is an award-winning handle design for comfort, and all the newer joysticks are some minimized version of it. It uses a 16 bit Intel processor for the force feedback and a 10 bit processor for the sensors.
These were discontinued because of the lack of torso-twist/rudder control, but it seems to me that the newer joysticks are sloppier, wear out quicker or just break because of this added function. Also were complaints about the large footprint, but this only makes for the most stable joystick you can buy, especially if you like the heavy feedback effects. The force feedback feature in joysticks has lost favor somewhat, with the more popular FPS games not supporting it anymore, but in this case, the force feedback motors still use the joystick software to control centering, even in non-force feedback games, so there is no slop in the middle. This is easily the best joystick ever for those who are still devoted to force-feedback effects, and one of the most accurate and stable for the money. I recently bought three of these for my LAN setup, two for christmas presents and one to replace one that was stolen. You can still find these on ebay, and I have yet to see one that shows any effects of wear.
If anybody ever makes a joystick as good as this without the cons, I'll buy it. The current reality is just a trade-off, and I'm not trading. Logitech has gotten worse, Saitek has unstable little bases, and the Thrustmasters are overpriced and still not as good as they should be unless you put aftermarket parts in them. I've been looking for a significantly better joystick for years since this one came out, and as of 2004, there still isn't one.

Wow.......2001-12-26

I had this Joystick for about 3 years. It is very good, im am amazed that they are still selling it. I dont know if the usb works, it never worked for me. But if you use the other port it works fine. The force feedback can be very weak or strong depending on your settings. This is the best joystick imho, if you dont mind that the joystick takes up a lot of space.

A very nice stick only missing rudder control.......2000-09-18

I like this stick much better than the equivalent Microsoft offering. It is more comfortable and has a good feature set for the price. It is a little big and it doesn't have a rudder control, though.

Logitech Wingman Xtreme Digital Hand Controller

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Logitech Wingman Xtreme Digital Hand Controller

Manufacturer: Logitech
ProductGroup: CE
Binding: Electronics

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Product Features:

Rapid fire trigger
Non-slip rubber buttons for fast action
Steel-weighted base
8-way hat switch
Warranty: One year

ASIN: B00000JDDX

Product Description

Take control! Logitech's Wingman Extreme Digital gives you the advantage over your Windows 95/98 based games. The digital technology enhances fast, accurate, and deadly responses for swift kills and evasive actions. The Wingman Extreme includes Logitech's Entertainment Software for simple joystick programming. Customize each button function to your individual gaming preferences without the hassles of complicated programming.

Logitech WingMan Warrior - Joystick - 4 button(s) - black

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Logitech WingMan Warrior - Joystick - 4 button(s) - black

Manufacturer: Logitech
ProductGroup: CE

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Product Description

Wingman Warrior is a two-handed gamepad/joystick for 3D action games. The blinking light packaging will catch your customers eyes. With the Wingman Warrior, you'll have other guys begging for mercy.First double-fisted control system for Doom style games which offers 360 degree independent aiming and intuitive movement. You maneuver realistically and get off shots with terminal accuracy in any hot 3D action games. Spin Control Technology, 4 way view switch, Quick action trigger for rapid fire results, and Serial port connector give full 3D advantage, and Gameport connector provides joystick compatibility.

Average customer rating:

Reliable and Long lasting

Logitech WingMan Joystick

Manufacturer: Logitech
ProductGroup: CE
Binding: Electronics

Hardware & Accessories | Specialty Stores | Computer & Video Games

Hardware | PC Games | Categories | Computer & Video Games
Accessories:

Jensen JF25 Stereo Headphones
Koss TD-80 Closed-Ear Home Stereophone
Koss R-10 Home Headphones
Monster Cable MP AV600 Power Protector
Koss Pro-4AA Studio Quality Headphones

Product Features:

Throttle control
Weighted steel base
Realistic rubber buttons
Rapid-fire trigger
Extra-long 7-foot cable

ASIN: B00000JCSB

Product Description

Award-winning, comfortable handle design, throttle control for better performance, rubber encased buttons improve firing accuracy and smooth tracking mechanism provides accurate movement makes this joystick a real winner among the similar models. Besides it is fully compatible with Windows 95/98 and DOS environment.

Customer Reviews:

Reliable and Long lasting.......2001-04-12

I bought mine about 4 years ago and have had no complaints. The grip is really comfortable and the buttons easy to reach and use. If you are looking for a simple reliable joystick here it is. Finally one of the buttons broke but for $20 to last 4 years, who can complain about that?

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Electronics